Wednesday, December 30, 2009
hai-o all is strong. but what to do now?
Sunday, December 27, 2009
some good books to read for clues on how to invest
i think it is pretty futile to try to predict the macroeconomic condition. We should rather have long term strategy with the companies we invested into by analyzing their actual business. Now is a good time to go and read some books or refresh one's memory from the books that we have read. From the many investment books i have read, today i would like to recommend The Five Rules for Successful Stock Investing: Morningstar's Guide to Building Wealth and Winning in the Market by Pat Dorsey. Reading it isn't just a matter of understanding PE ratios and other ratios or metrics, which most other books explain more or less adequately. Instead, the author has in a lively and clever way, presents analyzing balance sheets and cash flow and income statements clearly. It has a simplified hot dog business and some real companies to compare with as example. It has shows how bad companies cook their account by popping up some figures. In fact this book has helped me to avoid myself investing in a hot stock (Megan Media) listed in Malaysia years ago which has since gone burst due to account irregularities. In that case, one can see that the debt of the company has increased way faster than it sales.
Wednesday, December 23, 2009
Koperasi Tentera - capital guranteed with 12% return annually
it needs RM100 as starting modal, RM10 as account opening fee. Subsequenty one can put money into fee advance (simpanan pendahuluan yuran) whereby each month a maximum of RM300 will be deducted into the account that enjoys 12% dividend per year. i also bank in some money into the special savings account (akaun simpanan khas) where one enjoys 5% interest
so for people who has access to this, it is a good place to park your money as part of a diversified portfolio
hai-o the real cause of the surging stock price
you can get the report from bursa malaysia
from annual report, it is cited that
The Group is adhering to its dividend policy by paying not less
than 50% of Profi t After Tax as dividends to shareholders.
what this means?
Hai-o profit jumps 57.8% year on year. This will virtually means more dividend in the future.
in addition, PE is going to be down due to improving EPS. Added with more liquidity post the enlarged share capital, it has all the ingredients to go up in next level, at least in term of stock price performance.
let's not forget that stock price is not the only concern here, in fact the real concern should be the real business that it is doing. Its MLM business, which make up 70% of the profit, can perform so strong even in economic crisis time. And this is only mainly from Malaysian operation. I would want to imagine that there will be another surge when they are opening up Indonesian market.
Tuesday, December 22, 2009
hai-o corporate maneuver explains the share price rise
(i) Proposed bonus issue of up to 16,891,469 new ordinary share of RM1.00 each held in Hai-O (“Hai-O Shares” or “Shares”) (“Bonus Shares”), to be credited as fully paid-up, on the basis of one Bonus Share for every five existing Shares (“Proposed Bonus Issue”) held in the Company on an entitlement date to be determined later (“Entitlement Date”) (“Proposed Bonus Issue”);
(ii) Proposed share split involving the subdivision of each Hai-O Share held in the Company into two ordinary shares of RM0.50 each in Hai-O (“Subdivided Shares”) (“Proposed Share Split”);
(iii) Proposed amendment to the Memorandum and Articles of Association of Hai-O (“Proposed M&A Amendment”); and
(iv) Proposed private placement of up to 10.0% of the then enlarged issued and paid-up capital of Hai-O (“Placement Shares”) (“Proposed Private Placement”).
For the full announcement please refer at bursa malaysia
wire transfer to hong kong public bank
today Haio is drop to RM7.5. as i have said i will hold it long term. now that i have received the dividend, i am thinking whether to reinvest it into Haio or other stocks. Yesterday i received dividend from Digi. In fact after 1.5 months switching to digi i find the customer service at digi is actually better than maxis, despite the latter size and better network coverage. I would think digi will be able to continue its growth in Malaysia. Holding digi stock, which yield a higher dividend than Haio, may be a good supplemental choice
Sunday, December 20, 2009
Haio swing and its near future growth to be driven by Indonesian penetration
i have a friend who has, under my constant promotioning of the shares, having some discussion with me on haio. He has previously shunt the stock, preferring glove stocks, which i shunt. However, months back he has said haio has forged some alliance in china and will probably do some great business in china. Referring to this actually what i do understand is indeed Haio has forged some alliance in china but its near future growth is not in china. In fact it is targetting Indonesia. Here is related report on this matter. In fact i feel more comfortable with Indonesia than china as china business scene is bit different from what Haio is exceling in Malaysia, where its majority Malay driven MLM business is very successful. Indonesia is having a more similar environment than china and that's why i am optimisitic with its Indon's venture. Below is the announcement regarding this matter
Article entitled "Hai-O aims to strengthen Indonesian ops"
We refer to the news article, appearing in the New Straits Times, Biznews page
B6 on Thursday, October 29, 2009 in particular pertaining to the sentence
which is reproduced as follows :-
"Tan said the group is on track to achieve over 10 per cent growth in profit
and revenue for the current financial year ending April 30 2010, . "
The quoted statement is strictly an aspiration set to be achieved by the
Company after taking into consideration the Companys recent performance,
growing in the number of distributors in our multi level marketing division and
the ongoing sales promotion activities in plan. For the 1st quarter ended 31
July 2009, the Company had achieved financial performance with growth rate of
about 32% and 36% increase in revenue and profit after taxation respectively as
compared to the corresponding quarter of the preceding year.
The targeted revenue and profit to grow by 10% per cent this financial year is
an internal target set by the Company to achieve and not in any way intended to
refer to any financial estimates, forecasts or projections of the Company and
have not been reviewed by the external auditors of the Company.
The announcement is dated 29 October 2009.
Thursday, December 17, 2009
The fall of the trader
Today my friend forwarded me an article of the fall of Boaz Weinstein, once one of Wall Street's hottest traders, speaks volumes about why financial firms still are reeling from the shattered global markets.
Again it is proven that trading cannot really works over long term. one big fall will wipe off profit accumulated over the years. Bob is a brilliant man, as shown in his resume
- chess master, poker and blackjack devotee and top trader at Deutsche Bank AG, Mr. Weinstein made big bets using complex financial instruments, generating large returns for the bank and about $40 million in annual pay for himself. But in 2008 the group he ran saddled the bank with $1.8 billion in losses, erasing more than two years of trading gains.
to me, trading is still beyond my comprehend and my taste.For layman investor, i still prefer just choose and hold. The Haio debacle last month really gives me some shock, when it fell heavily. Today, it has recovered to RM7.48 again. I'm again the paper profit region. i happy to stick with this model as of now. more important is to continue my income stream as 'bullet' to buy up more stocks along the way
Tuesday, December 15, 2009
possible asset bubbles at Hong Kong
HK and S'pore property price has recovered lots of lost ground ever since the crisis. Malaysia, on the other hand, pretty unmoved (neither drop too much and subsequently not going up). We have a lower standard deviation but lower return. so, which property market is better?
*******here is the text*********
Asset bubbles rather than inflation will be the key concern for the financial stability of Asian economies next year, according to Hong Kong Monetary Authority chief executive Norman Chan Tak-lam.
Chan told the Hong Kong Economic Summit yesterday that although there was no asset bubble in Hong Kong as yet, it was important to prevent any from forming because it would be more difficult to mitigate the effects later
He added that as a small economy, Hong Kong could not merely respond through an interest-rate increase as that could have the adverse effect of triggering even more liquidity to flow into the market.
More than HK$640 billion has flowed into the city since October last year, with 20 per cent of that directed at the property market, pushing home prices up for 10 consecutive months.
Monday, December 14, 2009
Warrent Buffett and Interpretation of Financial Statement
Accordingly, the book is nice to read. The bookstore Popular is offering discount now and it cost around rm7X. normal price RM89
here is a link to the book at amazon
As i glanced through the table of contents, it covers a lot of financial statements (means look at the account) and it does looks to be comprehensive. Indeed, i have had a book by Morningstar which touches the same topic. Reading the accounts give you a sword at least at avoiding companies which less sound fundamental. For example, i avoided Megan Media (which was popular on local forum few years back but subsequently gets suspended due to account fraud) partly due to observing its accounts that the debt is increasing in higher pace than revenue and a doubtful manipulation of ratio such as ROE through accounting means.
Monday, December 7, 2009
Stock or property?
My friend got another word from his friend, that rich people buy property and poor people buy stock. To be fair, investing in property, to be in lesser risk, does need the investor to be cash rich. Otherwise, you expose yourself to leveraging. I have a rich relatives, she buys property but she also buy stock. So i wouldn't say that saying that my friend got is true. Conclusion, there are many roads to ROME. Just stick to your own liking.
Thursday, December 3, 2009
OSK seminar on investing in foreign market (Singapore, Indonesia)
Well, i have always stick myself to investing in Bursa, as it is free from forex risk and i'm only familiar with companies in Malaysia. However, bursa (actually calling the old name KLCI sounds nicer) current market PE of 19.7% is at premium of 12 years average PE of 16.63%, suggesting that it is likely that stock price is somewhat ahead of fundamental. That's why i think it is not bad to divest a bit to foreign country. In fact i have just made my first foray to Hong Kong, having transfered some money to Public Bank Hong Kong. However i find it somewhat weird to have to search HK stock by stock number. It is still hard for me to browse for information easily. So i haven't done anything yet.
Back to yesterday talk. For Singapore, sectors like REIT and transportation is covered. I haven't invested into neither of this two sectors before, as such what the analyst mention during the talk does serve the purpose for me to see how they value such stocks. I found that the presenter, a he, likes to use P/B to compare REIT. He highlighted some stocks, namely CDL, cambridge and suntec reit. Singapore is currently having an office supply and demand mismatch, and rent has come down a lot since the heyday in 2007. The matter is complicated by another more than 4 million sq feet of new office space next year, with at most 1.2 million sq feet of space to be taken up. Hence, all the reit he recommended is in the industrial and retail. An interesting is that retail demand has maintained somewhat strongly. Not sure if we should take this as a sign that perhaps directly investing into retail consumer stocks are good or not. In fact, personally i have always like consumer stocks as their product i can see in shopping malls and i'm the direct user. For example, one will still see Padini (a garment & fashion franchisee in Malaysia) shops are still pack with people. I haven't been to Singapore of late, but i still remember how jam pack the retail malls shoplots are when there are the so called 'SALE' going on. Check out on Singapore SALES, which is happening now :) Back to the island state stock, the last stock mentioned by the analyst is SMRT. It has defensive business with dividend yield in the region of 5%. Its growth correlates strongly and will be underpinned by the continuous population growth. It is a not exciting play though. The reason the analyst bring out such defensive stocks is that he feels that the market is bit 'hot' right now, with lots of carry trade from foreign country such as US, where interest is to remain low well into 2010, as mentioned by Bernanke. As such it is more cautious to take a defensive position.
Selena from DMG is the second presenter who is presenting stocks on SGX. She covers plantation. SGX plantation companies are somewhat 'new', as all the while Malaysia is more famous for plantation stocks, with giants such as Sime Darby (huge in size but with mediorce ROE and efficiency) and IOI. At first i find it somewhat weird to try to listen to someone talking on plantation stocks from a country that has no oil palm plantation at all. It is noteworthy to know, however, that some giant plantation counters does list on SGX, like Wilmar (with operation spanning the bulk of South east asia and China) and some Indonesian plantation player. However, those stocks does not enjoy valuation as high as their Malaysian counterpart. Anyhow, she does provide some good insights. Since i am not well verse with plantation companies (although i used to have IOIcorp for some short time). She cover from basics of the palm oil production, like CPO comes from the fruit, and palm kernel oil comes from the brown color 'kernel'. CPO has a very strong correlation with crude oil movement, and recently the southern oscillation index has a strong -16, suggesting a likely El Nino that will affects CPO yield and hence its price. CPO also has a demand higher than supply. High demand growth is seen from China and India, with India having 12.7 kg/capita and 5.3 million tonne annual consumption, china having 22.4 kg/capita and 5.8 million tonne. US at 54.2 kg/capita and 0.9 million tonne and Europe 58.2kg/capital at 5.1 million tonne. The figure are interesting, say China is continuing to reach the level of kg/capita as Europe, the demand for CPO easily double. India's growth is expected to be 12 years behind that of China, but combined, the two giants will consumes more than what the current market player can supply. As such, over long term, CPO should be viable. I have always don't know how to judge the cyclic nature of plantation counters but looking at such market demand supply situation gives me some form of interest to relook into the counters. i have no interest, though, to look at plantation counters in SGX, including the First Resources that she recommended.
The analyst from Indonesia give me some feel on the Indonesia stock market, which is very much different from bursa and SGX. They have many mining companies in the top 10 biggest blue chip companies, at which Malaysia has none (to be fair, Petronas is one big company in Malaysia but it is not listed). The other bluechips are the traditional stocks, such as banks and telco. Of the many stocks that he fly us through, none is consumer stocks, which puzzles me. Indonesia is one of the world country with highest population at 234 million yet consumer stocks are no where near the blue chips? Well, actually i'm too bias, Unilever is in their top 10, which is a multinational manufacturer of food, home care, and personal products. The analyst recommended Inco, which mine for nickel and offers the world highest grade nickel. The big 3 cement players (one national, one from Swiss and another from some European country i can't remember) are also expected to do well due to less competition. Some very 'fresh' thoughts are that over the last 12 years, Indonesia has only built 12km of toll highway annually, suggesting how underdeveloped the country infrastructure is. NPL of the banks are pretty high, at 4.6% level generally. Inflation is low at 2% however take note that it has a high of 12% few years ago. He cites the country as politically stable, but to me that is different story. Anyhow, i think my minimal exposure to Indonesia via my unit trust is good enough.
The last analyst is from Malaysia, and he is talking on Genting Singapore, which has seen a 87% rise in stock price YTD. It is noteworthy to note that it is trading at 50% premium to its peer (the other casino gaming counter), although Genting enjoys a much less competition, in fact it is duopoly in Singapore (which is expected to have 6.2million chinese captive market) and its parent monopoly in Malaysia (2.2 million captive chinese market). It is surprising that he has put a much higher expectation on Genting Singapore than its Malaysian parent, with growth expectation in the region of 40%, and matching that of Macau. He does cautious investor that of all the 3 last listed stock on Macau, 2 of them see price dropping post casino commencement of operation. The 'support line' of Genting Singapore is at 87cent level (currently it is $1.29)
End of the story is that OSK has done a good job at organizing such seminar, which on top of trying to have bringing more business, is beneficial to the customers. Recently bursa has also organized some talks via some investment banks. I'll try to attend one locally to see how good it is. But from the topic it seems rather plain vanilla.
Tuesday, December 1, 2009
sharpe ratio for haio
The definition of the sharpe ratio is ("Average return over 3 year" - "Risk free rate")/"Stdev over 3 years. so, sharpe ratio is a function of time too
From here we side track a bit
The risk-free rate is used to see if you are being properly compensated for the additional risk you are taking on with the risky asset. Traditionally, the risk-free rate of return is the shortest dated government securities such as MGS in Malaysia. While this type of security will have the least volatility, some would argue that the risk-free security used should match the duration of the investment it is being compared against.
Let's use 3% as the risk free rate.
Year 2007 2008 2009
Adjusted return 122.69% 12.08% 131.99%
Stdev Sharpe Ratio
66.71% 128.79%
The adjusted return is a sum of capital appreciation + dividend + free share over the login price annually
Good sharpe ratio means low in deviation, high in return that gives you the comfortable of the respective investment. This is because we are investor and not trader. we need to have a good certainty rather than gambling
from Haio as example, one can see that if both return and stdev is high sharpe ratio also will be high. There is no typical sharpe ratio value that we can target at. To yield a high sharpe ratio, it must has a high return with low STDEV
Sunday, November 29, 2009
using key financial ratios on analyzing stock, particulary haio
All the while i have being interested with using financial ratios onto the stock i follow. Before i buy a stock, i look at their ratios, particularly Return on equity (ROE), dividend yield (DY), price earning ratio (PE).
Actually there are many more ratios. Many of them i also never use and don't know how to use them. For Malaysian stock, how do we get such ratio?
PE is rather straight forward. It is Price/EPS. All newspaper will publish the PE of a stock. As such getting it is straight forward
Many newspaper also publish DY. However, at times i found that it differ from paper to paper. Some publish wrong info. so it is good you have alternative source for this.
ROE is bit difficult to get, relatively. I used to get my ROE from www.osk188.com.my , my stock broker website. But now i find it pretty tedious to go through its pages, in addition its data not very accurate either. Another nice way i like is to look at Dynaquest data book, however it is belated by few months when it gets to the rack. Since 2 years ago, we have another alternative for printed data, in the form of Stock Investor, which is a monthly digest. One can also calculate the ROE himself, i use the variant of EPS/NTA. There are different model available
If one attend a CFP class, he will learn about using some financial ratios to value stock, and learn about DDM. In malaysia, the more complicated DCF (discounted cash flow) is not taught but you get to learn a little bit of the theory. Most analyst uses DCF. I've chosen not to use such a complicated DCF model, not only because it is tedious to work out the model, but it involves some presumptions which i think is adding a lot of inaccuracies and uncertainties to the model. To me, DCF is at best a little bit better, if not worse, than simpler DDM or even the simple purchase based on ratio. My friends who studied CFP and CFA have shared with me what they have learnt.
i think in future it may be worth for me to use slightly more ratio onto my stock. For example, i think i am gonna look at the sharpe ratio of my entire portfolio. I'll share the outcome and the steps in future.
PS: my title reads ... haio, but haven't touched anything on haio. i think i touch it in next blog. basically want to compare it with other stocks in my portfolio to see how good/bad it is. by the way, today Haio is RM6.61. seems like my move last trading day is not too bad, at least short term wise
Wednesday, November 25, 2009
using Dividend Discount Model (DDM) onto Haio
my required return,r=10%=0.1, D0=current dividend=RM0.42
using this
price=D0(1+g)/(r-g)
=42*(1+0.05)/(0.1-0.05)
=882
so Haio is worth RM8.82 :)
if taking r=15% (a more realistic value)
price=RM4.41
but this price might never reach.
the beauty and ugly part of the model is that there is presumption
so, let's change again
PV=42*(1+0.08)/(0.15-0.08)=42*(1+0.08)/(0.15-0.08)=6.48
if haiO next year cant give me 8% growth,
then I will sell the share if i buy now
means final div + interim div is 45.36 cent
and eps growth at least 8%*1.2 = 9.6% with 20% buffer
today, haio up 6% so far, reaching as high as RM6.7
just now i was haste, i thought it might not go to RM6.48 again, so, i buy in at RM6.59 if it turns out i am wrong and the stock plunge again, i take same approach, wait until it is up again, then consider buy in or not
Tuesday, November 24, 2009
using dividend growth calculation onto Haio
in the cash flow,i, presuming i buy in now at RM6.2, presuming dividend grow at 5% whereas stock price up by 10% , the positive net cashflow simply means it is worth investing into the counter. Take note that there are 'presumption' made. It may or may not happen
the NPV@15% is just a targetted 15% annual return and not used in calculation
Forecast Best - Dividend growth 5% p.a with share price appreciation 10% p.a | |||||||||||
Final Div | Interim Div | Total Div | yoy total Div growth | yoy Interim Div growth | Cash Flow,i | Cash Flow,Div | Net Cashflow | ||||
2003 | 0.04 | 0.04 | 25.00% | 25.00% | |||||||
2004 | 0.05 | 0.05 | 140.00% | 20.00% | |||||||
2005 | 0.06 | 0.06 | 0.12 | -33.33% | 33.33% | ||||||
2006 | 0.08 | 0.08 | 62.50% | 62.50% | |||||||
2007 | 0.13 | 0.13 | 207.69% | 146.15% | |||||||
2008 | 0.32 | 0.08 | 0.4 | 5.00% | 0.00% | ||||||
2009 | 0.32 | 0.1 | 0.42 | -20.00% | 5.00% | $ (6,200.00) | 420 | -5780 | $389.97 | NPV@15% | Ok |
2010 | 0.336 | 0.336 | 5.00% | 5.00% | 336 | 336 | |||||
2011 | 0.3528 | 0.3528 | 5.00% | 5.00% | 352.8 | 352.8 | |||||
2012 | 0.37044 | 0.37044 | N.A | N.A | $8,252.20 | 370.44 | 8622.64 | $593.10 | NFV@15% | OK |
stock price movement- sentimentally driven or fundamentally driven?
yesterday my friend sean compile some fundamental analysis on haio. i paste his calculation here.
i believe now, the price movement is more sentimentally driven than fundamental, so any calculation won't work. Today my chartist friend told me that from chart it shows very likely will drop to RM5.7.
so, barring the presumption that there is no account irregularities for haio, and no news that we are unheard of , the decision is to hold it.
Final Div | Interim Div | Total Div | yoy total Div growth | yoy Interim Div growth | Cash Flow,i | Cash Flow,Div | Net Cashflow | ||||
2003 | 0.04 | 0.04 | 25.00% | 25.00% | -590 | 40 | -550 | $2,771.36 | NPV@15% | ||
2004 | 0.05 | 0.05 | 140.00% | 20.00% | 50 | 50 | |||||
2005 | 0.06 | 0.06 | 0.12 | -33.33% | 33.33% | 120 | 120 | ||||
2006 | 0.08 | 0.08 | 62.50% | 62.50% | 80 | 80 | |||||
2007 | 0.13 | 0.13 | 207.69% | 146.15% | 130 | 130 | |||||
2008 | 0.32 | 0.08 | 0.4 | 5.00% | 0.00% | 400 | 400 | ||||
2009 | 0.32 | 0.1 | 0.42 | N.A | N.A | 7160 | 420 | 7580 | $6,410.31 | NFV@15% | |
Forecast Worst - Maintain Dividend at no share appreciation | |||||||||||
Final Div | Interim Div | Total Div | yoy total Div growth | yoy Interim Div growth | Cash Flow,i | Cash Flow,Div | Net Cashflow | ||||
2003 | 0.04 | 0.04 | 25.00% | 25.00% | |||||||
2004 | 0.05 | 0.05 | 140.00% | 20.00% | |||||||
2005 | 0.06 | 0.06 | 0.12 | -33.33% | 33.33% | ||||||
2006 | 0.08 | 0.08 | 62.50% | 62.50% | |||||||
2007 | 0.13 | 0.13 | 207.69% | 146.15% | |||||||
2008 | 0.32 | 0.08 | 0.4 | 5.00% | 0.00% | ||||||
2009 | 0.32 | 0.1 | 0.42 | -23.81% | 0.00% | -6650 | 420 | -6230 | ($979.90) | NPV@15% | No go |
2010 | 0.32 | 0.32 | 0.00% | 0.00% | 320 | 320 | |||||
2011 | 0.32 | 0.32 | 0.00% | 0.00% | 320 | 320 | |||||
2012 | 0.32 | 0.32 | N.A | N.A | 6650 | 320 | 6970 | ($1,490.31) | NFV@15% | No go | |
Forecast Best - Dividend growth 5% p.a with share price appreciation 10% p.a | |||||||||||
Final Div | Interim Div | Total Div | yoy total Div growth | yoy Interim Div growth | Cash Flow,i | Cash Flow,Div | Net Cashflow | ||||
2003 | 0.04 | 0.04 | 25.00% | 25.00% | |||||||
2004 | 0.05 | 0.05 | 140.00% | 20.00% | |||||||
2005 | 0.06 | 0.06 | 0.12 | -33.33% | 33.33% | ||||||
2006 | 0.08 | 0.08 | 62.50% | 62.50% | |||||||
2007 | 0.13 | 0.13 | 207.69% | 146.15% | |||||||
2008 | 0.32 | 0.08 | 0.4 | 5.00% | 0.00% | ||||||
2009 | 0.32 | 0.1 | 0.42 | -20.00% | 5.00% | $(6,650.00) | 420 | -6230 | $341.12 | NPV@15% | Ok |
2010 | 0.336 | 0.336 | 5.00% | 5.00% | 336 | 336 | |||||
2011 | 0.3528 | 0.3528 | 5.00% | 5.00% | 352.8 | 352.8 | |||||
2012 | 0.37044 | 0.37044 | N.A | N.A | $8,851.15 | 370.44 | 9221.59 | $518.80 | NFV@15% | OK |
Monday, November 23, 2009
Haio is dropping
There is however a thought on whether i should buy in more. i think probably not as i have set my target to diversify into other stocks. I'll keep my option open for the moment.
Thursday, November 19, 2009
ex-date and arbitrage
prior to this i have being thinking whether i should sell out before the ex-date and after it drop down buy in again. I would be able to earn an arbitrage of the drop. Actually not sure if it is called arbitrage at all.
for this case, if i sell out at RM7.99, and buy in again now at RM7.22, and presuming my buy in price is RM7.5 previously, i would earn RM0.49 at least, which is higher than the RM0.32 dividend. the difference between is 2.26% earning over RM7.5 purchase price. However, after minus off the extra brokerage involved, it doesn't sounds that great. So, the conclusion since i had wanted to hold it long term anyway, it would be better not to target this arbitrage. After all, it won't 100% drop after ex-date.
the point that i should be considering is still the business earning of Haio. Look at the financial results below. EPS has been increasing 28% in the last quarter compare to previous quarter.
This has the effect to bring down PE over long term. So this is one reason i hold the stock.
Announcement Date | Financial Yr. End | Qtr | Period End | Revenue RM '000 | Profit/Lost RM'000 | EPS | Amended | ||||||
29-Sep-09 | 30-Apr-10 | 1 | 31-Jul-09 | 148,572 | 18,519 | 22.17 | - | ||||||
26-Jun-09 | 30-Apr-09 | 4 | 30-Apr-09 | 132,845 | 14,734 | 17.80 | - | ||||||
27-Mar-09 | 30-Apr-09 | 3 | 31-Jan-09 | 102,129 | 12,409 | 14.64 | - | ||||||
18-Dec-08 | 30-Apr-09 | 2 | 31-Oct-08 | 87,292 | 11,152 | 13.06 | - |
Secondly, even the dividend is improving over the years. holding this would be good enough
Company | Particulars | Date announced | Ex-Date | To those registered by | To be paid on | Total for yr so far | Total for prev yr |
Final 32¢ | 02-Oct-09 | 19-Nov-09 | 23-Nov-09 | 07-Dec-09 | 42¢ | 40¢ | |
Interim 10¢ | 26-Feb-09 | 12-Mar-09 | 16-Mar-09 | 26-Mar-09 | 10¢ | 38.35¢ | |
Final 32¢ | 03-Oct-08 | 27-Nov-08 | 01-Dec-08 | 10-Dec-08 | 40¢ | 13¢ | |
Interim 8¢ | 19-Feb-08 | 12-Mar-08 | 14-Mar-08 | 28-Mar-08 | 8¢ | 18¢ | |
First & Final 6¢ | 04-Oct-07 | 29-Nov-07 | 01-Dec-07 | 12-Dec-07 | 6¢ | 5¢ | |
Interim 5¢ TE | 15-Jan-07 | 23-Feb-07 | 27-Feb-07 | 13-Mar-07 | 5¢ | 8¢ | |
Final 8¢ | 27-Sep-06 | 29-Nov-06 | 01-Dec-06 | 12-Dec-06 | 8¢ | 6¢ | |
First & Final 6¢ | 04-Oct-05 | 29-Nov-05 | 01-Dec-05 | 12-Dec-05 | 6¢ | 5¢ | |
First & Final 5¢ | 13-Aug-04 | 29-Nov-04 | 01-Dec-04 | 10-Dec-04 | 5¢ | 4¢ |
Sunday, November 15, 2009
The banks in Malaysia
This has spur my interest to look at the banking stocks in Malaysia. pbbank currently has PE 14.2 and DY of 5.0%. Other local banks have a ratio pale in comparison to pbbank, to and extend that i need not compare them side by side with pbbank at all.
again perhaps i should compare it side by side with regional banks such as dbs, uob and ocbc
Wednesday, November 11, 2009
Haio wait for dividend
i think i won't continue buy in for now. Will wait till after ex date and observe. After all, after the buying spree, it has becomes the heaviest stock by weight in my portfolio. I would probably start to invest in other stock again.
So, as of today, these are the key ratios of Haio. Generally, they are major points i consider for a stock
ROE: 31.71859 %. anything above 15% is worth considering. take note however ROE can be manipulated on book. But if a management is good enough, they don't do such stipulation. Yesterday a friend of mine says his relatives had worked for Haio chairman before as legal advisor and believed that he is a honourable man.
PE: 12.79 i think the stock is already somewhat fully valued. it is in fact more expensive than public bank at the moment. However, let see whether the earning of the company can continue the fast pace as before. Let's see also if there is any growth in dividend. The same dividend rate has been maintained for the past 2 years.
dividend yield: although buffett doesn't favour dividend payout, i do. i hardly sell my stock, so other than enjoying capital gain on paper, high dividend payout is the only real $ that i get to receive from stock. currently haio dividend yield about 5%
some of my friends who have seen the stock soars but didn't buy has start to provide reasons to the stock phenomenon surge, citing reason in its new product such as the infra red stuff. Seriously i do not pay too much attention to that (may be i should). I have prior to that try to observe its core MLM business growth for few quarters before deciding that its business is good enough for me to buy in and hold. Provided the management didn't do anything stupid that cost degrade in the business, possibly i will just let it lie that. This is the 'passive income' way that i advocate: let the money growth by letting others manage it (in this case the management manage the listed company)
other stock i interested in near future:
uchitec , public bank, digi
Friday, October 30, 2009
buy Haio again and wait for dividend
Thursday, October 29, 2009
Haio in at RM7.08
Now , is it still worth to buy more shares now?
Monday, October 12, 2009
haio shooting through the roof
so the logic is
either the stock is too cheap previously (when people say it is expensive)
or it is super expensive nowadays (if what people say now is correct)
who is correct? as investor, how should we digest this? given current time, would u buy in?
Thursday, September 10, 2009
Koperasi Angkatan Tentera Malaysia
both permanent staff and reserved unit personnel can participate in this investment scheme
Thursday, September 3, 2009
surging infant milk powder price
i couldn't change the price of infant milk, nor do i want to go for alternative infant milk. So the best way is to look at DLady stock. With such increase of price, i would think DLady profit will go up. To take things simpler, i just collect data from online again...
DY 7.7% (respectable)
ROE = 37% ++
PE=15.04
the regional markets have been trending down by fluctuation of US markets. To cite what my friend calving mentioned in his blog, The main dish for this week is August employment report (Wednesday, 8.15am ET) and ISM manufacturing index (Tuesday, 10.00am ET) before the long Labor Day weekend.Again, i think this is some minor sentiment driven investing which is affected by such report. i would rather take the dummy way, just buy into long term for a high yielding and growing stock. I see Dutch Lady as a strong brand in milk industry (i.e. its yogurt drink seems always getting my attention in shopping center, beating all other brands, although yogurt drink is not what i always buy). i think it worth a buy. I'll buy when i get my money
Thursday, July 9, 2009
stick to own choice when u feel good
with this, it again strengthen my believe that don't be influenced too much on how other people feel about the stock you have chosen. If you have done your homework and decided on it, just do it.
of course there is risk in haio :) but that's another story
Tuesday, July 7, 2009
bullish haio lousy cimb clicktrader
it is again my portfolio allocation time. today it is RM4.8 having increased from my last buy in price of RM4.15. just yesterday my friend has bought in at RM4.6
i've actually tried to buy in , but stuck with the super lousy CIMB clicktrader trading platform. i vow that until they improve their service, today will be the last time i will use clicktrader to buy stock. the system is super slow, unresponsive, and makes trading so cumbersome, inefficient, and next to impossible. Mind that i'm using a T1 line, of which the speed bottleneck is not on my side. the platform also hangs on firefox. I deem all this as unacceptable, and a shame on a big bank like CIMB.
actually, haio profit is good, but the momentum of its stock price increase seems something too bullish. anyhow, it is my portfolio plan to include it so i think i won't about its short term price increase. as such i will buy in.
Tuesday, June 16, 2009
did it Haio
immediately i que for Haio at 4.16. i only ended up getting 300 shares matched. What an experience, i guess i ended saving no $ from trying out cimb clicktrader. might as well has stick with my existing broker.
Wednesday, June 3, 2009
Haio and 4th quarter EPS
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| Current Year Quarter | Current Year To Date |
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Revenue | P/L | EPS | Dividend | Revenue | P/L | EPS | Dividend | NTAB | |||||
27 Mar 2009 | 3rd | 30 Apr 2009 | 102,129 | 12,409 | 14.64 | - | 302,331 | 37,141 | 44.56 | - | 1.8800 | Unaudited | |
18 Dec 2008 | 2nd | 30 Apr 2009 | 87,292 | 11,152 | 13.06 | 10.00 | 200,202 | 24,732 | 30.10 | 10.00 | 1.9800 | Unaudited | |
19 Sep 2008 | 1st | 30 Apr 2009 | 112,910 | 13,602 | 16.80 | - | 112,910 | 13,602 | 16.80 | - | 1.9300 | Unaudited | |
26 Jun 2008 | 4th | 30 Apr 2008 | 133,548 | 18,942 | 25.15 | 32.00 | 373,822 | 48,493 | 64.38 | 40.00 | 1.7600 | Unaudited | |
26 Mar 2008 | 3rd | 30 Apr 2008 | 100,481 | 13,391 | 18.16 | - | 240,274 | 29,551 | 40.07 | 8.00 | 1.5700 | Unaudited | |
19 Dec 2007 | 2nd | 30 Apr 2008 | 80,517 | 9,096 | 13.55 | 8.00 | 139,793 | 16,159 | 24.08 | 8.00 | 1.5000 | Unaudited | |
28 Sep 2007 | 1st | 30 Apr 2008 | 59,276 | 7,063 | 10.53 | - | 59,276 | 7,063 | 10.53 | - | 1.6800 | Unaudited | |
15 Jun 2007 | 4th | 30 Apr 2007 | 56,719 | 7,771 | 11.85 | 13.00 | 189,346 | 21,384 | 32.61 | 18.00 | 1.5700 | Unaudited | |
20 Mar 2007 | 3rd | 30 Apr 2007 | 51,401 | 4,967 | 7.58 | - | 132,628 | 13,443 | 20.51 | - | 1.5100 | Unaudited | |
21 Dec 2006 | 2nd | 30 Apr 2007 | 41,867 | 4,938 | 7.55 | 5.00 | 81,227 | 8,476 | 12.96 | 5.00 | 1.5000 | Unaudited | |
29 Sep 2006 | 1st | 30 Apr 2007 | 39,360 | 3,538 | 5.41 | - | 39,360 | 3,538 | 5.41 | - | 1.4200 | Unaudited | |
26 Jun 2006 | 4th | 30 Apr 2006 | 34,282 | 2,290 | 3.69 | 8.00 | 144,276 | 9,857 | 15.87 | 8.00 | 1.4400 | Unaudited | |
30 Mar 2006 | 3rd | 30 Apr 2006 | 35,843 | 2,607 | 4.21 | - | 109,994 | 7,567 | 12.23 | - | 1.4700 | Unaudited | |
29 Dec 2005 | 2nd | 30 Apr 2006 | 40,253 | 3,081 | 4.96 | - | 74,151 | 4,960 | 7.98 | - | 1.4000 | Unaudited | |
28 Sep 2005 | 1st | 30 Apr 2006 | 33,899 | 1,879 | 3.00 | - | 33,899 | 1,879 | 3.00 | - | 1.3500 | Unaudited |